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  • 1.  Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-23-2022 03:11 AM
    I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).

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    IT EM
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  • 2.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-23-2022 06:32 AM
    Hi,

    I'm not sure if you're using a 10GBASE-T (or 1000BASE-T) transceiver or
    a DAC cable in a SFP+ port? (DAC cable worth a try if possible.)

    I can't answer your exact question, but it is possible to locally manage
    a 1930 24G on a VLAN other than 1 from a copper RJ45 port -- that's how
    I configured mine.

    I don't think I've tried managing via a SFP+ port. But you've already
    confirmed that you can via fiber. I don't see why a DAC cable would be
    any different.

    I'd also expect the VLAN setup with copper to be the same as you've
    successfully used with fiber.

    Best regards,
    Frank



    On 2022/11/23 03:10, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    > I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    > I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    > (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    > After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    > In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    > For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).
    >
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  • 3.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-23-2022 06:52 AM
    For the Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G switches connected by fiber to each other, I had no problems. I managed the separate management VLAN.
    The problem occurs if I want to do the copper upload, without using the SFP port.
    Whether with or without "trunk" I don't reach the switch via the web.
    I navigate to another vlan, manage the Aruba APs on other VLANs, reach the other switches on the management VLAN... but I can't get to the switch address anymore (obviously with a defined, static IP and belonging to the same class as the other switches)

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    IT EM
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  • 4.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-23-2022 07:19 AM
    I think maybe (?) you're having the same confusion I did about Aruba's
    use of the term "trunk" in the 1930 vs. 1920 switch. AFAICT "trunk" means:

    1920: carries more than one vlan (may or may not be a single port or
    aggregated ports)

    1930: aggregates multiple ports (may or may not carry multiple VLANs)

    When you say "copper upload" I guess you are connecting to and
    attempting to manage from a 1G RJ45 port. This is the way I manage mine.
    It works. You have to set up the port's VLANs properly:
    In VLAN: VLAN Configuration, the row for the "Interface" (port or trunk)
    you are trying to manage from must have your management VLAN (30) listed
    in its "Tagged VLANs" column.

    Another thing to check is Security: Port Security. It must be disabled
    for the port (or trunk) you are trying to manage from.



    On 2022/11/23 06:52, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    > For the Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G switches connected by fiber to each other, I had no problems. I managed the separate management VLAN.
    > The problem occurs if I want to do the copper upload, without using the SFP port.
    > Whether with or without "trunk" I don't reach the switch via the web.
    > I navigate to another vlan, manage the Aruba APs on other VLANs, reach the other switches on the management VLAN... but I can't get to the switch address anymore (obviously with a defined, static IP and belonging to the same class as the other switches)
    >
    > ------------------------------
    > IT EM
    > ------------------------------
    > -------------------------------------------
    > Original Message:
    > Sent: 11-23-2022 06:32 AM
    > From: Frank Myhr
    > Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm not sure if you're using a 10GBASE-T (or 1000BASE-T) transceiver or
    > a DAC cable in a SFP+ port? (DAC cable worth a try if possible.)
    >
    > I can't answer your exact question, but it is possible to locally manage
    > a 1930 24G on a VLAN other than 1 from a copper RJ45 port -- that's how
    > I configured mine.
    >
    > I don't think I've tried managing via a SFP+ port. But you've already
    > confirmed that you can via fiber. I don't see why a DAC cable would be
    > any different.
    >
    > I'd also expect the VLAN setup with copper to be the same as you've
    > successfully used with fiber.
    >
    > Best regards,
    > Frank
    >
    >
    >
    > On 2022/11/23 03:10, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >> I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    >> I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    >> (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    >> After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    >> In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    >> For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).
    >>
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    >> IT EM
    >> ------------------------------
    >>
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    > Original Message:
    > Sent: 11/18/2022 3:32:00 AM
    > From: ITEM
    > Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >
    > I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    > I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    > (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    > After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    > In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    > For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).
    >
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  • 5.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-23-2022 08:21 AM
    Frank, ;) I know I used the term "trunk" improperly.
    I replicated the setup I usually did for the fiber uplink, on an RJ45 port.
    I "managed" the port both as an independent port and as a "grouped" port (TRK1 with port 8 as element).
    I repeat what I consider a strange thing... the switch has a static ip 192.168.20.211, but the management vlan is 20 (v20m).
    (Vlan Interface Configuration: interface 8  - Port Vlanid 2 - Tagged only - Untagged Vlan 1 - Tagged VLANs 2,20)
    I reach 192.168.20.205,206,207,208 (the other switches) on ping and on web.
    I do not resolve and do not ping 192.168.20.211.

    When he told me about "Security" I imagined that I could have put something "blocking"... I was wrong, all identical to the other configurations (all default).

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    IT EM
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  • 6.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-23-2022 08:50 AM
    If interface 8 is part of TRK1, then you need to check the VLAN
    configuration of TRK1 -- which overrides that of port 8 as long as it's
    a member of TRK1.

    It looks odd to me that your Port Vlanid 2 is different than your
    Untagged Vlan 1 membership... but if you're sending frames tagged with
    vlan 20 (or whatever your management vlan is) then don't think it matters.

    Glad your port security is disabled, which as you note is default.
    Another case of poor terminology, imo it should be called "port
    isolation". So that's not the source of your trouble.

    ~

    My complaint about ambiguous term "trunk" goes to HPE / Aruba, not to
    you. Maddening that they changed its meaning between the 1920 and 1930
    without even noting it.


    On 2022/11/23 08:20, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    > Frank, ;) I know I used the term "trunk" improperly.
    > I replicated the setup I usually did for the fiber uplink, on an RJ45 port.
    > I "managed" the port both as an independent port and as a "grouped" port (TRK1 with port 8 as element).
    > I repeat what I consider a strange thing... the switch has a static ip 192.168.20.211, but the management vlan is 20 (v20m).
    > (Vlan Interface Configuration: interface 8 - Port Vlanid 2 - Tagged only - Untagged Vlan 1 - Tagged VLANs 2,20)
    > I reach 192.168.20.205,206,207,208 (the other switches) on ping and on web.
    > I do not resolve and do not ping 192.168.20.211.
    >
    > When he told me about "Security" I imagined that I could have put something "blocking"... I was wrong, all identical to the other configurations (all default).
    >
    > ------------------------------
    > IT EM
    > ------------------------------
    > -------------------------------------------
    > Original Message:
    > Sent: 11-23-2022 07:18 AM
    > From: Frank Myhr
    > Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >
    > I think maybe (?) you're having the same confusion I did about Aruba's
    > use of the term "trunk" in the 1930 vs. 1920 switch. AFAICT "trunk" means:
    >
    > 1920: carries more than one vlan (may or may not be a single port or
    > aggregated ports)
    >
    > 1930: aggregates multiple ports (may or may not carry multiple VLANs)
    >
    > When you say "copper upload" I guess you are connecting to and
    > attempting to manage from a 1G RJ45 port. This is the way I manage mine.
    > It works. You have to set up the port's VLANs properly:
    > In VLAN: VLAN Configuration, the row for the "Interface" (port or trunk)
    > you are trying to manage from must have your management VLAN (30) listed
    > in its "Tagged VLANs" column.
    >
    > Another thing to check is Security: Port Security. It must be disabled
    > for the port (or trunk) you are trying to manage from.
    >
    >
    >
    > On 2022/11/23 06:52, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >> For the Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G switches connected by fiber to each other, I had no problems. I managed the separate management VLAN.
    >> The problem occurs if I want to do the copper upload, without using the SFP port.
    >> Whether with or without "trunk" I don't reach the switch via the web.
    >> I navigate to another vlan, manage the Aruba APs on other VLANs, reach the other switches on the management VLAN... but I can't get to the switch address anymore (obviously with a defined, static IP and belonging to the same class as the other switches)
    >>
    >> ------------------------------
    >> IT EM
    >> ------------------------------
    >> -------------------------------------------
    >> Original Message:
    >> Sent: 11-23-2022 06:32 AM
    >> From: Frank Myhr
    >> Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I'm not sure if you're using a 10GBASE-T (or 1000BASE-T) transceiver or
    >> a DAC cable in a SFP+ port? (DAC cable worth a try if possible.)
    >>
    >> I can't answer your exact question, but it is possible to locally manage
    >> a 1930 24G on a VLAN other than 1 from a copper RJ45 port -- that's how
    >> I configured mine.
    >>
    >> I don't think I've tried managing via a SFP+ port. But you've already
    >> confirmed that you can via fiber. I don't see why a DAC cable would be
    >> any different.
    >>
    >> I'd also expect the VLAN setup with copper to be the same as you've
    >> successfully used with fiber.
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >> Frank
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 2022/11/23 03:10, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >>> I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    >>> I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    >>> (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    >>> After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    >>> In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    >>> For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).
    >>>
    >>> ------------------------------
    >>> IT EM
    >>> ------------------------------
    >>>
    >>>
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  • 7.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-25-2022 03:41 AM
    Frank sorry for the inconvenience, Port 8 assigned in TRK 1 (or don't I put it in TRK and program only port 8 for uplink?) .
    • Vlan 2 LAN
    • Vlan 20 Management
    • Vlan 1 not used
    How would you configure the port? I start to spin "empty"

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    IT EM
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  • 8.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-25-2022 06:06 AM
    Hi,

    I'm sorry you're still having trouble. You should be able to manage the
    switch from any port or trunk that is properly configured as part of
    your management VLAN 20.

    Sounds like you want to manage from Port 8. In this case do NOT add Port
    8 to a trunk.*

    And then just to prove to yourself that it works, assign Port 8: Port
    Vlanid 20, with both tagged and untagged frames allowed. That should get
    you talking with your switch.

    Best regards,
    Frank

    ~

    * Again, as far as the 1930 is concerned, "trunk" means "aggregated
    ports". In other words, a trunk would consist of Port 8 plus one or more
    other Ports, *ALL* connected between your 1930 switch and the device you
    want to manage from. Because you haven't mentioned other Ports involved
    or a need for > 1Gbps bandwidth I think you do NOT want a trunk here.




    On 2022/11/25 03:40, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    > Frank sorry for the inconvenience, Port 8 assigned in TRK 1 (or don't I put it in TRK and program only port 8 for uplink?) .
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Vlan 2 LAN
    >
    > Vlan 20 Management
    >
    > Vlan 1 not used
    >
    > How would you configure the port? I start to spin "empty"
    >
    > ------------------------------
    > IT EM
    > ------------------------------
    > -------------------------------------------
    > Original Message:
    > Sent: 11-23-2022 08:49 AM
    > From: Frank Myhr
    > Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >
    > If interface 8 is part of TRK1, then you need to check the VLAN
    > configuration of TRK1 -- which overrides that of port 8 as long as it's
    > a member of TRK1.
    >
    > It looks odd to me that your Port Vlanid 2 is different than your
    > Untagged Vlan 1 membership... but if you're sending frames tagged with
    > vlan 20 (or whatever your management vlan is) then don't think it matters.
    >
    > Glad your port security is disabled, which as you note is default.
    > Another case of poor terminology, imo it should be called "port
    > isolation". So that's not the source of your trouble.
    >
    > ~
    >
    > My complaint about ambiguous term "trunk" goes to HPE / Aruba, not to
    > you. Maddening that they changed its meaning between the 1920 and 1930
    > without even noting it.
    >
    >
    > On 2022/11/23 08:20, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >> Frank, ;) I know I used the term "trunk" improperly.
    >> I replicated the setup I usually did for the fiber uplink, on an RJ45 port.
    >> I "managed" the port both as an independent port and as a "grouped" port (TRK1 with port 8 as element).
    >> I repeat what I consider a strange thing... the switch has a static ip 192.168.20.211, but the management vlan is 20 (v20m).
    >> (Vlan Interface Configuration: interface 8 - Port Vlanid 2 - Tagged only - Untagged Vlan 1 - Tagged VLANs 2,20)
    >> I reach 192.168.20.205,206,207,208 (the other switches) on ping and on web.
    >> I do not resolve and do not ping 192.168.20.211.
    >>
    >> When he told me about "Security" I imagined that I could have put something "blocking"... I was wrong, all identical to the other configurations (all default).
    >>
    >> ------------------------------
    >> IT EM
    >> ------------------------------
    >> -------------------------------------------
    >> Original Message:
    >> Sent: 11-23-2022 07:18 AM
    >> From: Frank Myhr
    >> Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >>
    >> I think maybe (?) you're having the same confusion I did about Aruba's
    >> use of the term "trunk" in the 1930 vs. 1920 switch. AFAICT "trunk" means:
    >>
    >> 1920: carries more than one vlan (may or may not be a single port or
    >> aggregated ports)
    >>
    >> 1930: aggregates multiple ports (may or may not carry multiple VLANs)
    >>
    >> When you say "copper upload" I guess you are connecting to and
    >> attempting to manage from a 1G RJ45 port. This is the way I manage mine.
    >> It works. You have to set up the port's VLANs properly:
    >> In VLAN: VLAN Configuration, the row for the "Interface" (port or trunk)
    >> you are trying to manage from must have your management VLAN (30) listed
    >> in its "Tagged VLANs" column.
    >>
    >> Another thing to check is Security: Port Security. It must be disabled
    >> for the port (or trunk) you are trying to manage from.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 2022/11/23 06:52, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >>> For the Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G switches connected by fiber to each other, I had no problems. I managed the separate management VLAN.
    >>> The problem occurs if I want to do the copper upload, without using the SFP port.
    >>> Whether with or without "trunk" I don't reach the switch via the web.
    >>> I navigate to another vlan, manage the Aruba APs on other VLANs, reach the other switches on the management VLAN... but I can't get to the switch address anymore (obviously with a defined, static IP and belonging to the same class as the other switches)
    >>>
    >>> ------------------------------
    >>> IT EM
    >>> ------------------------------
    >>> -------------------------------------------
    >>> Original Message:
    >>> Sent: 11-23-2022 06:32 AM
    >>> From: Frank Myhr
    >>> Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I'm not sure if you're using a 10GBASE-T (or 1000BASE-T) transceiver or
    >>> a DAC cable in a SFP+ port? (DAC cable worth a try if possible.)
    >>>
    >>> I can't answer your exact question, but it is possible to locally manage
    >>> a 1930 24G on a VLAN other than 1 from a copper RJ45 port -- that's how
    >>> I configured mine.
    >>>
    >>> I don't think I've tried managing via a SFP+ port. But you've already
    >>> confirmed that you can via fiber. I don't see why a DAC cable would be
    >>> any different.
    >>>
    >>> I'd also expect the VLAN setup with copper to be the same as you've
    >>> successfully used with fiber.
    >>>
    >>> Best regards,
    >>> Frank
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 2022/11/23 03:10, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >>>> I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    >>>> I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    >>>> (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    >>>> After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    >>>> In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    >>>> For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).
    >>>>
    >>>> ------------------------------
    >>>> IT EM
    >>>> ------------------------------
    >>>>
    >>>>
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  • 9.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-25-2022 10:18 AM
    (thanking you for your availability) rewind...
    1930 8P, I have to use one port as "uplink".
    By convention I use the 8, but any is fine (as long as it works hahahaha).
    Fully understood what you tell me about "trunk", mine was one of the many attempts made.
    I have not assigned ports to TRK1. Trk1, 2, and, 4 are disabled.
    I configured port 8 only (included vlan2, vlan20 and alternating between included and excluded). I see the vlan20 addresses placed elsewhere (192.168.20.205,206,207,208), I don't reach "itself", 192.168.20.211 ... only by putting the laptop on class 192.168.20.x can I go to the switch (192.168.20.211)
    it seems to me such a trivial thing that I just don't understand how it doesn't work (but I have completely lost my lucidity)

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  • 10.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-25-2022 10:42 AM
    Hi,

    Remember that VLAN ID is a Layer 2 (Ethernet) feature. Because you need
    to connect to an IP address (Layer 3) on the switch to manage it, you
    must connect from an IP address (i.e. your laptop's IP address) in the
    same IP network block. In other words, you can't expect to manage from
    an IP address *outside* of 192.168.20.x (in your case). You *could*
    assign a different management IP address on the switch if you really
    need management to be in a different IP network.

    Hope this helps,
    Frank


    On 2022/11/25 10:18, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    > (thanking you for your availability) rewind...
    > 1930 8P, I have to use one port as "uplink".
    > By convention I use the 8, but any is fine (as long as it works hahahaha).
    > Fully understood what you tell me about "trunk", mine was one of the many attempts made.
    > I have not assigned ports to TRK1. Trk1, 2, and, 4 are disabled.
    > I configured port 8 only (included vlan2, vlan20 and alternating between included and excluded). I see the vlan20 addresses placed elsewhere (192.168.20.205,206,207,208), I don't reach "itself", 192.168.20.211 ... only by putting the laptop on class 192.168.20.x can I go to the switch (192.168.20.211)
    > it seems to me such a trivial thing that I just don't understand how it doesn't work (but I have completely lost my lucidity)
    >
    > ------------------------------
    > IT EM
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    > Original Message:
    > Sent: 11-23-2022 08:49 AM
    > From: Frank Myhr
    > Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >
    > If interface 8 is part of TRK1, then you need to check the VLAN
    > configuration of TRK1 -- which overrides that of port 8 as long as it's
    > a member of TRK1.
    >
    > It looks odd to me that your Port Vlanid 2 is different than your
    > Untagged Vlan 1 membership... but if you're sending frames tagged with
    > vlan 20 (or whatever your management vlan is) then don't think it matters.
    >
    > Glad your port security is disabled, which as you note is default.
    > Another case of poor terminology, imo it should be called "port
    > isolation". So that's not the source of your trouble.
    >
    > ~
    >
    > My complaint about ambiguous term "trunk" goes to HPE / Aruba, not to
    > you. Maddening that they changed its meaning between the 1920 and 1930
    > without even noting it.
    >
    >
    > On 2022/11/23 08:20, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >> Frank, ;) I know I used the term "trunk" improperly.
    >> I replicated the setup I usually did for the fiber uplink, on an RJ45 port.
    >> I "managed" the port both as an independent port and as a "grouped" port (TRK1 with port 8 as element).
    >> I repeat what I consider a strange thing... the switch has a static ip 192.168.20.211, but the management vlan is 20 (v20m).
    >> (Vlan Interface Configuration: interface 8 - Port Vlanid 2 - Tagged only - Untagged Vlan 1 - Tagged VLANs 2,20)
    >> I reach 192.168.20.205,206,207,208 (the other switches) on ping and on web.
    >> I do not resolve and do not ping 192.168.20.211.
    >>
    >> When he told me about "Security" I imagined that I could have put something "blocking"... I was wrong, all identical to the other configurations (all default).
    >>
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    >> IT EM
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    >> Original Message:
    >> Sent: 11-23-2022 07:18 AM
    >> From: Frank Myhr
    >> Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >>
    >> I think maybe (?) you're having the same confusion I did about Aruba's
    >> use of the term "trunk" in the 1930 vs. 1920 switch. AFAICT "trunk" means:
    >>
    >> 1920: carries more than one vlan (may or may not be a single port or
    >> aggregated ports)
    >>
    >> 1930: aggregates multiple ports (may or may not carry multiple VLANs)
    >>
    >> When you say "copper upload" I guess you are connecting to and
    >> attempting to manage from a 1G RJ45 port. This is the way I manage mine.
    >> It works. You have to set up the port's VLANs properly:
    >> In VLAN: VLAN Configuration, the row for the "Interface" (port or trunk)
    >> you are trying to manage from must have your management VLAN (30) listed
    >> in its "Tagged VLANs" column.
    >>
    >> Another thing to check is Security: Port Security. It must be disabled
    >> for the port (or trunk) you are trying to manage from.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 2022/11/23 06:52, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >>> For the Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G switches connected by fiber to each other, I had no problems. I managed the separate management VLAN.
    >>> The problem occurs if I want to do the copper upload, without using the SFP port.
    >>> Whether with or without "trunk" I don't reach the switch via the web.
    >>> I navigate to another vlan, manage the Aruba APs on other VLANs, reach the other switches on the management VLAN... but I can't get to the switch address anymore (obviously with a defined, static IP and belonging to the same class as the other switches)
    >>>
    >>> ------------------------------
    >>> IT EM
    >>> ------------------------------
    >>> -------------------------------------------
    >>> Original Message:
    >>> Sent: 11-23-2022 06:32 AM
    >>> From: Frank Myhr
    >>> Subject: Copper uplinks 1930
    >>>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I'm not sure if you're using a 10GBASE-T (or 1000BASE-T) transceiver or
    >>> a DAC cable in a SFP+ port? (DAC cable worth a try if possible.)
    >>>
    >>> I can't answer your exact question, but it is possible to locally manage
    >>> a 1930 24G on a VLAN other than 1 from a copper RJ45 port -- that's how
    >>> I configured mine.
    >>>
    >>> I don't think I've tried managing via a SFP+ port. But you've already
    >>> confirmed that you can via fiber. I don't see why a DAC cable would be
    >>> any different.
    >>>
    >>> I'd also expect the VLAN setup with copper to be the same as you've
    >>> successfully used with fiber.
    >>>
    >>> Best regards,
    >>> Frank
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 2022/11/23 03:10, ITEM via Aruba Instant On Community wrote:
    >>>> I apologize in advance if there is already some topic with the same question. I've been going crazy for a few days.
    >>>> I have Aruba Instant On 1930 24G/48G connected by fiber and it was not a problem to change management to a different VLAN than 1.
    >>>> (no cloud management) The problem comes when I can't do it in fiber but I have to do it as a copper uplink.
    >>>> After several attempts (aside from my low skill) I'm "suspecting" that the SFP ports have different handling.
    >>>> In the configuration I'm going to do (after putting the swtich on a different network class from the initial one and the same as that of the other switches), I reach the management of the other switches, I don't ping the ip of the just configured switch and I don't I reach the web interface
    >>>> For example, if I have 3 vlan (1, 20, 30) and i want to put the management on 30, how should I manage the uplink port (trunk-portgroup, which I do with the fiber connection).
    >>>>
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  • 11.  RE: Copper uplinks 1930

    Posted 11-25-2022 10:52 AM

    You are absolutely right, in fact it is connected to an Aruba 2930F.
    The laptop connected to another port receives, in dhcp, a correct network address.
    Ip which allows it to see the other switches. It also needs to see the switch they're plugged into.
    When I configured the switches with SFP I did the same steps.

    My fear is that there is some "bug" on the copper uplink, Even if you told me that it is a configuration that you usually have already done.



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